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Lucy Callagan
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2015.11.22 00:59:31 -
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Do you even realise that you guys only discuss of OGBs in low sec ? Do you even realise that in null they are just fine and the only way for small gangs to compete with home defense blob?
So ok maybe OBG are worse than aids in low sec, i don't know, i don't play there and i hate that place.
But if bringing them on grid is the way to fix them in lowsec, it totaly fucks up null secs small gangs.
I'll just copy paste here what i already said somewhere else.
I you don't speak french just use google traduction or anything, it's 2AM and i'm to lazy to traduce sry
"Lucy Callagan" wrote:"Nyvis" wrote:"Lucy Callagan" wrote:"Nyvis" wrote: Mais tu vois des masses de frig t1 link+¬es qui vont combattre des newbies en plex fw. Le seul r+¬sultat, c'est que plus personne engage de peur que ton adversaire soit sous link. +ºa c'est probl+¿me localis+¬ au low sec uniquement, mettre les links on grid en low aurait peut-+¬tre un impact b+¬n+¬fique sur le probl+¿me mais les cons+¬quences seraient tr+¿s differentes en nullsec. J'avais pas pens+¬ +á cette approche, mais ouais, c'est pas faux, l'impact est tr+¿s diff+¬rent entre les deux zones (sans parler du highsec o+¦ tu peux wardec et avoir un alt link hors corp). Le solo est tr+¿s diff+¬rent aussi. J'ai moins d'exp+¬rience des engagements de petite taille en null, donc j'ai moins id+¬e de l'impact. Mais dans l'ensemble, je pense pas que +ºa change grand chose, +á part ouvrir plus de possibilit+¬s aux groupes +á bas skill points, vu que dans la majorit+¬ des cas, un gang undock pas sans boosts. Apr+¿s, le fait qu'on puisse te snipe ton booster s'il est on grid peut +¬tre un probl+¿me. Disons que +ºa desavantage clairement les groupes smg. Par exemple: une fleet de machin blob random vs 5/10 mec en kite @50-60 km(engagement type en ns). Les links du blob sit bien tranquilement sur la gate prot+¬g+¬ par tous les potos et eventuellement sous reps pendant que les links su smg sont mwd on :mwd: @ 250-300 km ou a cot+¬ de ses poto. Que se passe-t-il ? Le links du blob ne courre aucun risque et n'est donc pas +¬liminable, alors que pour les 5/10 mecs, soit leurs links sont combat prob+¬ (et comme c'est sur une gate/station +ºa se fait literralement en <10s) soit deux ou trois jihad-inty suffisent a avoir un tackle suffisant pour le tomber. Et m+¬me si cela n'y parviennent pas, les links du smg courrent un risque alors que ceux du blob non. Conclusion, le smg et encore plus le solo est d+¬savantag+¬. Quote:+á part ouvrir plus de possibilit+¬s aux groupes +á bas skill points, Un groupe low sp vs un blob revient a la situation suivante mais sans links donc c'est encore pire. Dans un deuxieme cas de figure, un groupe low sp(i.e je sais pas moi ? Caracals, svipuls, vexor, inty, eventuellement typhoon ?) vs des joueur qui jouent habituellement avec des links(i.e Orthrus, Mach, Vigilant, rapier?)... Le resultat reste le m+¬me, avec ou sans links d'un cot+¬ comme de l'autre.
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Lucy Callagan
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Posted - 2015.12.08 17:19:12 -
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Markus Lionum wrote: but you are the only zealot here defending links
Oh he's not the only one, others are just to busy doing actual pvp or other stuff to be forum warrioring as efficiently as Crosi does.
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Lucy Callagan
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Posted - 2015.12.17 23:20:17 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:AFK boosts are dead boosts.
I remember killing a neutral damnation on an undock with my garmur. Took forever.
I like the fact that those opportunities are out there.
especially with new zone mjd
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Lucy Callagan
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Posted - 2015.12.21 23:36:07 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Combat pilot + links > 5, 10 or more unlinked combat pilots is actually the problem. They'll never catch him...best case scenario is forcing him off temporarily with ewar and long range weapons.
Lol no, especially in low sec where ppl never go more than 2 jumps away their staging. D A N K refitting is so hard.
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Lucy Callagan
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Posted - 2015.12.23 19:09:04 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Lucy Callagan wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Combat pilot + links > 5, 10 or more unlinked combat pilots is actually the problem. They'll never catch him...best case scenario is forcing him off temporarily with ewar and long range weapons.
Lol no, especially in low sec where ppl never go more than 2 jumps away their staging. D A N K refitting is so hard. You literally cannot catch a linked, snaked, defensive scram-fit orthrus or garmur without links of your own. Unless he does something laughably stupid. The garmur does 11k hot and scrams at 25-26k with domination, the orthrus does 6k hot and kills frigates in 4 shots max (if you have a shield buffer fit with high resists). You can make it leave grid with a griffin, maulus, or sniper corms but he can still harass you any time your fleet splits up or your ewar is out of position and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it short of having a virtue prober devoting 100% effort to forcing the booster to keep moving. So you either need a vastly outsized investment of resources or a fully active player in a specific fit, just to achieve a standoff against a single pilot and his semi-afk alt.
rapier + keres, any decent gang has one of those (at least I often do)
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Lucy Callagan
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Posted - 2015.12.25 10:39:51 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
And for either of those to be effective you need...guess what? Links of your own.
Sorry but : no
Without links, a rapier can web @ 60 km cold while a triple damp keres can reduce the lock range to a sub-10 range even on a linked recon.
Regarding what you said i just wonder if you ever flown one of those...
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Lucy Callagan
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2015.12.30 02:31:34 -
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So CCP is the Ikea of video games. Interesting....
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